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Kurt Avery21 November 2025

Turn Trash Water into Drinking Water ft. Kurt Avery

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The myth-busts, hot takes, explainers, and tools worth keeping.

Explainer· 4

Explainer08:30

How Clean Water Restores Time, Income, School, and Work

Kurt says unsafe water imposes costs far beyond illness, especially on women responsible for preparing family water. He says filtration can reduce three hours of daily preparation to 15 minutes, avoid spending on boiling or buying water, keep children in school, and free adults to work or start businesses.

  • Women may spend three hours a day preparing drinking water
  • Filtering can reduce that work to about 15 minutes
  • Kurt says families save income previously spent buying or cleaning water
  • Healthier children and parents can return to school and work
  • Clean cooking water can enable women to start businesses

The typical woman might spend three hours a day preparing water for them to drink.

Kurt Avery · 08:30

So, we've taken 3 hours down to 15 minutes.

Kurt Avery · 09:00
#clean water#women#income#education#health
Explainer11:30

How Tap Filters Expand Sawyer's Mission From Villages to Cities

Sawyer's earlier bucket system focused on rural communities, but Kurt says a faucet-mounted filter can produce 2 to 500 gallons per day for ten years. The company uses schools to teach children and parents and community organisations to operate free water stations, opening programmes in cities where piped water is still unsafe.

  • The tap filter connects directly to a faucet
  • Kurt says one filter can produce 2 to 500 gallons per day
  • Teachers train children before parents take filters home
  • Churches and community centres can run neighbourhood water stations
  • The model extends Sawyer's reach into urban areas

So now this this low filter can get you 2 to 500 gallons per day every day for 10 years.

Kurt Avery · 12:00

But now with the tap filter, we can be right in the cities.

Kurt Avery · 12:30
#water filters#cities#schools#community distribution
Explainer22:00

Inside Sawyer's Hollow-Fiber Filtration and Triple-Testing Process

Kurt describes bundles of hollow fibers whose pores admit water while blocking larger contaminants. He says Sawyer rejects units that fail an initial integrity test, then tests the completed product twice more for O-ring placement and air leaks; thick fibers allow repeated high-pressure backflushing.

  • Water enters tiny hollow fibers through pores
  • Kurt says Sawyer tests against particles larger than 0.1 microns
  • A failing filter is discarded
  • Two product-stage tests check O-rings and air leaks
  • Thicker fibers support repeated forceful backflushing

We we test every filter three times.

Kurt Avery · 22:30

The second key is that our hoses, and there's pictures of it, are so much thicker than the other brands that you can in fact…

Kurt Avery · 24:00
#filtration#hollow fiber#quality control#water safety
Explainer26:30

Why Sawyer's Water Aid Does Not Require New Infrastructure

Kurt says point-of-use filtration lets communities make their existing water safe without first treating and piping new supplies to every home. Sawyer combines the filters with charities, the Organization of American States, ambassadors, governments, schools, and armies that provide access, training, and distribution.

  • Point-of-use filters work with water people already collect
  • The model avoids building a complete treatment and pipe network first
  • The Organization of American States connects Sawyer with governments
  • Schools can deliver training and armies can support distribution
  • Kurt says governments invite programmes after reviewing field data

With our filters, you need no infrastructure.

Kurt Avery · 27:00

The army is helping us with distributions.

Kurt Avery · 27:30
#infrastructure#government#distribution#water aid#partnerships

Story· 7

Story00:30

Why Kurt Avery Left the Corporate World to Build Sawyer

Kurt says he decided to start his own company after watching a company president take credit for his work. Sawyer began with a bee-sting and snake-bite kit and spent the following decades entering outdoor categories with technically different products.

  • A lack of recognition pushed Kurt out of corporate employment
  • Sawyer began with an extraction kit that remained in Walmart 41 years later
  • The company later entered first aid, sunscreen, repellent, and water filtration

Watch him take credit for absolutely everything. Didn't give me a single bone for all I did.

Kurt Avery · 00:30

And I said, "I see how this game works. It's time to go out on my own."

Kurt Avery · 00:30
#entrepreneurship#sawyer#career#outdoor products
Story09:30

The Gulf War Contract That Took Sawyer From 2,000 to 230,000 Bottles

Sawyer was filling about 2,000 sunscreen bottles a week by hand when a Gulf War contract called for 230,000 a week. Kurt accepted before knowing how the company would fulfil it, then assembled the production needed to supply a formula designed to last for days when soldiers could not shower or reapply.

  • Sawyer supplied roughly six million sunscreen bottles for the first Gulf War
  • Weekly production demand increased from 2,000 to 230,000 bottles
  • The formula was designed for soldiers unable to reapply during war
  • Sawyer later brought the product to its domestic niche market

at the time we were only filling 2,000 bottles a week by hand. Contract comes through for 230,000 a week.

Kurt Avery · 09:30

So of course I said, "Yeah, we'll do that."

Kurt Avery · 09:30
#sunscreen#gulf war#scaling#military
Story16:00

How the Haiti Earthquake Put Sawyer on the Humanitarian Map

Kurt identifies the 2010 Haiti earthquake as Sawyer's humanitarian starting point after the company adopted its newer filtration system. He says representatives of 20 water companies were asked what they personally used, and all answered Sawyer, prompting charities to recognise the filter and widening its humanitarian role.

  • Sawyer sent about 100,000 filters to Haiti
  • Some filters were purchased by humanitarian organisations
  • Representatives from competing water companies said they personally used Sawyer
  • The episode helped establish Sawyer with charities
  • Major company-funded donations became possible only years later

the starting point for us was that her um earthquake in Haiti.

Kurt Avery · 16:00

Every one of them said they personally use Sawyer.

Kurt Avery · 17:00
#haiti#earthquake#humanitarian aid#charities
Story19:00

The Uganda Village That Began Naming Babies at Birth

Kurt recounts a missionary learning that families in a Ugandan village waited until children turned three before naming them because roughly a third died before that age. After filters were distributed, he says the missionary returned the next year and found families naming babies at birth because no baby had been lost since the filters arrived.

  • Families delayed naming children because early childhood deaths were common
  • A missionary returned with Sawyer filters
  • Kurt says the village reported no baby deaths after the filters arrived
  • The story reinforces Sawyer's commitment to clean-water work

they lose a third of their kids before age three.

Kurt Avery · 19:00

Goes back with the filters, puts them throughout the village, goes back the next year, they name that birth because they haven't lost a baby…

Kurt Avery · 19:00
#uganda#children#clean water#humanitarian impact
Story24:30

The Grandmother Whose Loss Put Fire in Sawyer's Mission

Kurt recalls an early village installation around 2008 when a grandmother told the team that her grandchild would still be alive if the filter had arrived two weeks earlier. He says the encounter intensified Sawyer's urgency to expand as quickly as it could.

  • The encounter happened during early village installations
  • A grandmother connected her grandchild's death to the filter arriving too late
  • Kurt says the moment intensified Sawyer's humanitarian urgency

If you were here two weeks ago, my grandkid would still be alive.

Kurt Avery · 25:00

that one just put the fire in our belly.

Kurt Avery · 25:00
#humanitarian mission#clean water#children#sawyer
Story25:30

What Changed After Sawyer Filtered 97,000 Homes in Kibera

Kurt says Sawyer reached 97,000 homes in Kibera, a Nairobi community of roughly 400,000 people with only 76 toilets. Three years later, he says illness had fallen enough for medical clinics to consolidate, while violence and gang conflict declined as water scarcity and insecurity eased.

  • Sawyer installed filters in 97,000 homes
  • Kurt describes severe sanitation constraints in the community
  • He says reduced illness left clinics with fewer patients
  • He links clean-water access with reduced scarcity and violence
  • Kurt says eight major gangs became peaceful

we went into Kabira. It's a suburb of Nairobi, and did 97,000 homes.

Kurt Avery · 25:30

Everybody's got water. So they're not fighting over it.

Kurt Avery · 26:00
#kibera#water scarcity#public health#violence#nairobi
Story33:30

How Kurt Raised Problem-Solvers Who Later Joined Sawyer

Kurt says he responded to his children's questions by asking them to think through the answer, teaching them to solve problems. Although he deliberately avoided naming the company after the family and initially planned not to employ relatives, their abilities led the wider company to bring several children and sons-in-law into important roles.

  • Kurt asked his children to answer their own why questions
  • He wanted them to learn thinking and problem solving
  • The Sawyer name avoided tying the children's identity to the company
  • A daughter runs the foundation and another handles social media
  • Kurt says five family members now work in the business

I never answered their questions. When they would say why this, why that, I say, you tell me.

Kurt Avery · 33:30

I made them learn to think, made them learn to solve problems.

Kurt Avery · 34:00
#family business#parenting#succession#problem solving

Takeaway· 1

Takeaway17:30

How Faith, Humility, and Service Guide Kurt's Use of Sawyer

Kurt says his Christian faith was examined rather than merely inherited and shapes his view that wealth cannot be taken with him. He credits God, Sawyer's staff, and the company's unusual solution rather than himself, and frames continued humanitarian work as service made possible by entrusted resources.

  • Kurt says he examined other religions before affirming his Christian faith
  • He uses the phrase that there are no U-Hauls in heaven
  • He credits both God and Sawyer's staff for the company's work
  • He connects humble personal consumption with giving company resources away
  • His desired final judgement is to be called a good and faithful servant

there's no U-Hauls in heaven. So why not, you know, may the last spec, may the last check bounce, you know, give it away.

Kurt Avery · 18:30

I don't take credit for it because first of all, there's a God element, but I also have an incredible company and staff.

Kurt Avery · 20:30
#faith#service#humility#philanthropy