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11 June 2026

Joe Wallace

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The myth-busts, hot takes, explainers, and tools worth keeping.

Hot Take· 2

Hot Take19:07

A Small Scam Costs More Than the Money It Takes

Wallace says he cannot understand why somebody would sacrifice a valuable long-term friendship for a relatively small scam. His comparison prices the damage as the lost relationship and future trust, not just the immediate amount taken.

  • Short-term theft can destroy a much more valuable relationship
  • Wallace views trust and long-term access as assets
  • His optimism about people has also left him exposed to scams

So why would you want to scam me at a $50,000 or $20,000?

Joe Wallace · 19:26

Instead of a long-term relationship, I just never understood that when people done that did that kind of stuff, I just was like such a…

Joe Wallace · 19:34
#trust#relationships#scams
Hot Take1:01:16

The Business and Status Traps Wallace Sees Athletes Make

Wallace identifies bad businesses as a major financial mistake among athletes, particularly the familiar record-label and clothing-company routes. He also argues that visible status spending can reflect pressure to prove success after growing up without money.

  • Athletes historically repeated the same record-label and clothing-company bets
  • Relatively few athletes become serious entrepreneurs
  • Wallace links conspicuous spending to the urge to show other people that success has arrived

Um, bad businesses, and then what I mean by that is back in the day, they would all do either record labels or clothing companies…

Joe Wallace · 1:01:21

When you grow up in nothing and show people you have so that's been the bag that's the biggest downfall of an athlete really to…

Joe Wallace · 1:02:54
#athletes#money#status

Explainer· 2

Explainer15:51

Wing Riot's Robotic Shipping-Container Restaurant Model

Wallace describes Wing Riot as a chicken concept using refurbished shipping containers, cooking automation, drive-through service, and only two workers. He says the business also controls its organic chicken supply and uses athlete involvement to add visibility.

  • Refurbished shipping containers reduce the need for a conventional restaurant footprint
  • Robots handle cooking and sauce tasks while two employees cover remaining work
  • The concept combines supply-chain control, organic chicken, and athlete-backed promotion

He's refurbishing him and he's putting in robots right that do all the cooking do everything.

Joe Wallace · 16:49

Only two people work.

Joe Wallace · 16:56
#restaurants#automation#food
Explainer26:16

Galaxie's Pitch: Let Creators Build a Sellable Brand

Wallace describes Galaxie as an AI-oriented marketplace where creators choose white-label vendors, add their identity, and sell without holding inventory. His core distinction from marketplace selling is ownership: the creator keeps the brand and its data, creating an asset that could later be sold.

  • Creators can open a store without buying or handling inventory
  • Vendors fulfill and ship the products
  • The creator's brand and data remain attached to the business
  • Wallace argues that this ownership can make the business sellable

Somebody purchase your brand because it's your brand.

Joe Wallace · 29:59
#ecommerce#creator economy#brand ownership

Story· 3

Story02:00

Why Leaving Pro Basketball Made Business Feel Directionless

Joe Wallace says the transition out of professional basketball was extremely difficult despite his long-standing interest in entrepreneurship. He tried Hollywood, foreclosed real estate, and bringing athletes into other people's deals before deciding he had to learn business for himself.

  • Too many possible paths made it difficult to choose one direction
  • Several early ventures failed before Wallace committed to learning business directly
  • He learned by attending business meetings and getting around experienced people

So, I mean, you know, it was extremely difficult.

Joe Wallace · 02:06
#career transition#entrepreneurship#basketball
Story06:04

The FBI Call That Forced Wallace to Rely on Himself

Wallace recounts joining a heavily funded Seattle venture, recruiting prominent people to its board, and expecting the role to pay off. After the founder was arrested and the company collapsed, Wallace concluded that he could not leave his future in somebody else's hands.

  • The venture appeared credible because it had funding, visible spending, and a prominent board
  • The founder's arrest destroyed the opportunity Wallace had spent roughly a year and a half building
  • The collapse pushed Wallace to study industries and create opportunities for himself

I get a call FBI, he got arrested, everything just kind of blew up in my face.

Joe Wallace · 08:04

And that's what I really just said, you know what, you gotta do it yourself.

Joe Wallace · 08:09
#fraud#self-reliance#business failure
Story41:02

How One Photo Helped Magic Johnson Win a Building Deal

Wallace recounts Magic Johnson taking a photo with a disappointed child after another player refused. Years later, the child's father recognized Johnson during a property transaction and awarded him the deal, illustrating Wallace's belief that respectful behavior can return as opportunity long after the original encounter.

  • Johnson stepped in to take a photo with a child
  • The child's father later controlled a building Johnson wanted to buy
  • The remembered act of kindness influenced the later transaction

So magic goes, I'll take a picture, right?

Joe Wallace · 43:00

I was like, that's why I tell people to treat people with respect.

Joe Wallace · 43:44
#magic johnson#kindness#reputation

Q&A· 1

Q&A1:00:21

Why Wallace Says Business Is Harder Than Making the League

Asked whether making the league or surviving business is harder, Wallace chooses business. His reason is that an athlete already knows the game and can practice it directly, while business presents unfamiliar problems without the same obvious practice path.

  • Wallace rates surviving business as harder than making the league
  • Basketball provides a known skill and a clear practice activity
  • Business requires learning unfamiliar disciplines while operating

It's not like you just go practice.

Joe Wallace · 1:00:40
#business#basketball#learning

Tool· 1

Tool31:10

The Behavioral AI Layer Inside Wallace's CRM

Wallace says his Deal Like You CRM combines automation, webinars, LinkedIn outreach, an AI receptionist, and behavioral AI from Million Ways. He says the behavioral layer analyzes prior communication and adapts its responses to the recipient's conversational pattern.

  • The CRM combines several existing capabilities through integrations
  • Million Ways supplies the behavioral AI component Wallace describes
  • The system uses communication history to tailor its tone
  • Wallace assembled the initial product in roughly three weeks

So Million Ways is a behavioral AI.

Joe Wallace · 32:30

And then it responds to me after analyzing how me and you have been speaking through our emails.

Joe Wallace · 33:09
#crm#behavioral ai#sales automation

Takeaway· 4

Takeaway15:29

Why Wallace Replaces Himself as CEO

Wallace says he may initially serve as CEO when creating a company, but he looks for an operator who understands the industry better. He frames this as an ego decision: ownership of the idea does not mean he must remain the person running it.

  • Wallace is willing to begin as CEO while a venture takes shape
  • He then seeks a leader with relevant industry knowledge
  • He sees insistence on keeping the title as an ego problem

And so a lot of my stuff, even in the initial beginnings, I'll be the CEO, but I'll go find the CEO.

Joe Wallace · 15:31

I'll create stuff all time, put people in it, they know what they're doing, right?

Joe Wallace · 15:43
#leadership#ceo#delegation
Takeaway36:59

Everything You Do Not Attempt Is Guaranteed to Fail

Wallace says he accepts that many of his projects will fail because he cannot know the result in advance. He values effort and a plausible chance of success over waiting for certainty, while acknowledging that he does not have a perfect record.

  • Wallace expects both strong wins and serious failures
  • He does not claim to know which ideas will work before trying them
  • A credible chance and committed effort are enough for him to test an idea

And listen, I'll have a lot of failures and I have no problem with that because, you know, I don't know what's going to fail…

Joe Wallace · 37:22

I do know that I'm going to try and I do know that it has a chance.

Joe Wallace · 39:21
#entrepreneurship#failure#action
Takeaway48:07

Why Wallace Treats Travel as a Core Part of Life

Wallace calls travel one of life's most important experiences outside having children. After living in several countries, he says travel fills the memory bank through places, people, and events that cannot be gained by staying inside a fixed routine.

  • Wallace has lived in Turkey, Paris, Argentina, Japan, and Spain
  • He values encounters and memories above repeatedly seeing the same environment
  • He recommends even short staycations when longer travel is not possible

It really is just the one thing that if there's anything you do, anything outside of had kids.

Joe Wallace · 48:12

When I lay down for the last time and I go through my memory banks, it's going to be some great memories that I have…

Joe Wallace · 53:15
#travel#life experience#memories
Takeaway1:04:04

You Cannot Reinvent Yourself Until You Know Yourself

Wallace says reinvention starts with self-knowledge and acceptance rather than a new external identity. In his view, people struggle to change because they do not first accept who they currently are.

  • Self-knowledge must come before reinvention
  • Acceptance of the current self is a prerequisite for change
  • The exact reinvention path differs by individual

But the one thing I would say is that you can't reinvent yourself until you know yourself.

Joe Wallace · 1:04:14

And you got to accept who you are to change, baby.

Joe Wallace · 1:04:28
#reinvention#self-knowledge#change